| | | 11-06-2010, 12:xi AM | | Fellow member | | | Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: iii Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts | | | Information? 38 Southward&W Special CTG, 5-digit serial A relative recently passed abroad and left me a Smith and Wesson 38 with "38 Southward&Westward Special CTG" etched on the barrel. I don't know much at all almost these guns and would appreciate any information (engagement, value range, etc.) for a gun like this. The series numbers on the butt of the gun and the underside of the barrel lucifer -- 11###. A second number appears on cylinder swivel (and on the gun where the hinge attaches): 51037. Cheers for whatever information. | | 11-06-2010, 06:35 AM | | US Veteran | | | Join Appointment: Feb 2009 Location: Ozarks of Missouri Posts: 3,324 Likes: two,982 Liked 2,823 Times in 984 Posts | | | Welcome to the Forum. We'll need some more information to place your S&W and pictures if you lot are able to post them. Is there a letter prefix in forepart of the series number on the butt . . . like "C" 11XXX? Also the barrel length would be helpful . . . mensurate from the forepart of the cylinder to the muzzle tip. Once again, pictures would be best. Russ | | 11-06-2010, 08:45 AM | | SWCA Member Absent-minded Comrade | | | Bring together Date: Jul 2002 Location: The kidney of Dixie. Posts: x,530 Likes: 49 Liked 13,428 Times in 3,292 Posts | | | Nosotros practise need more info. You make no mention of a model number on the frame visible when the cylinder is swung out (appears as MOD 10 or MOD 36, etc) and then nosotros assume it was made before 1958 when the model numbers appear. Six shot or five? A vi shot 38 Special would sound similar a Military & Police force Model (probably with a iv" or 6" butt) and a serial of xi,000 would arrive a very early one, similar around 1910 or so. A v shooter with that series could be a J frame model (probably with a ii" barrel) from the early 1950s. There are other possibilities, also. __________________ No life story has happy end. | | 11-06-2010, 08:51 AM | | Fellow member | | | Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: iii Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts | | | Thanks. I gave you all the numbers that appear anywhere, after a very careful inspection. Definitely a six shooter. How do you measure out barrel length? With the cylinder flipped out, the length of the barrel alone is 4". Concluding edited by jagrady; xi-06-2010 at 08:52 AM. Reason: Unclear | | 11-06-2010, 08:55 AM | | Member | | | Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: three Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts | | | OK, on the barrel of the gun there are no messages and numbers, simply underneath the barrel, it looks something like: C 111## Southward (with the Southward a little lower than the rest on the line) | | xi-06-2010, 09:15 AM | | Moderator | | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 23,752 Likes: 215 Liked xiv,570 Times in vii,499 Posts | | | A half-dozen-shot .38 Special with the SN mentioned is a .38 Armed services & Police, later called the model 10, equally the other posters mentioned. It was probably made in 1948. It should have the serial number on the bottom of the grip frame. Your showtime post mentioned: "The serial numbers on the barrel of the gun and the underside of the barrel match -- 11###." Your second post stated: "OK, on the butt of the gun there are no letters and numbers..." ? __________________ Alan SWCA 2023, SWHF 220 | | eleven-06-2010, ten:10 AM | | SWCA Member Absent Comrade | | | Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The kidney of Dixie. Posts: x,530 Likes: 49 Liked 13,428 Times in 3,292 Posts | | | The C prefix makes it a post state of war War machine & Police, likely 1949 or 1950. Don't know about the S postage. May not exist factory but added past a police or security agency that owned information technology. Butt is measured from the muzzle to the confront of the cylinder. The iv" barrel is the most commonly seen length. Sounds similar a basic M&P from effectually 1950 or and then. This gun (in various versions evolving over many decades) is the about popular revolver in the world and Due south&West sold millions of them. In 1958 it becomes the Model x. About folks around hither would probably pay nearly $300 for a decent example of such a gun. __________________ No life story has happy finish. | | xi-06-2010, 12:51 PM | | SWCA Fellow member | | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 5,201 Likes: 535 Liked 5,003 Times in 1,064 Posts | | | If the number is 11xxx, with no letter prefix, then its a model of 1899. I presume that the extractor rod end hangs complimentary under the barrel, and the underside of the barrel does not take a communicable-mechanism for the stop of the extractor rod ? Mike Priwer | | 12-x-2010, 09:41 PM | | Member | | | Join Engagement: Dec 2010 Posts: two Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts | | | Re: Southward&W 38 special CTG I'm a newbie to this forum and have enjoyed reading the Q&A. I don't know where to brainstorm, I estimate the all-time matter is to start from the kickoff. My blood brother caused a hand gun from his uncle (past marriage), later on his passing. He gave me the gun to hold on to information technology, since so I cleaned the gun and put it away, never shooting it. My brother since then has passed away, its been some four years now. I just cleaned out my gun case and establish that gun. Would like to know what the age of the gun. On the right side of the barrel has 38 S&W special CTG on the L side of the butt has Smith & Wesson serial # on the lesser of the grips has 5K17796. If you open the cylinder chamber (where it hinges) I constitute this Modern 67 and #44918 also beneath these numbers is an S and then off to the side of information technology in large numbers 27 then below that looks similar a half dozen this really looks weird. Has anyone seen this and practise you know what all these numbers mean... The revolver is nickle, half-dozen", adj rear sight, wooden checkered hand grips with S&West logo, oh I forgot that on the cylinder hammer side has a "Five" postage stamp. I hope that I can get some info on the revolver. Thanks Sorry for the long explanation... | | 12-10-2010, 10:33 PM | | SWCA Member | | | Join Date: December 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 5,201 Likes: 535 Liked five,003 Times in i,064 Posts | | | This is a Model 67, which is a stainless steel revolver, not a nickel plated carbon steel gun. A magnet should not be attracted to it. It dates from the middle 1970'south, and is mayhap a $400 gun - possibly a fleck more than. This is probably not the best thread for it - you might want to post it on the next thread, covering the latter years. 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